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forum_emoticons.html	[quote=G-MANN,8918] I meant "interesting", not "important". And when I said "important cars in films" I meant cars that were important to the action in a film. You could say a bus is more important to you than a sports car, because you need the bus to travel to work everyday and you can't afford the sport car anyway. You should have an idea which cars are more interesting to people than others, I imagine you enjoy going to motor shows but you don't go and visit car parks to look at cars do you? The thing is Stronghold if you feel yourself that a car isn't worth adding (and sometimes you've admitted this), and there is nothing to be learned from posting it, then you shouldn't add it in the first place. You really ought to be more discriminate rather adding every car you watch see in a film or TV show. I'm not sure antp wants to have delete other people's listings, if every car was listed for a fair reason (hence the star system) then he wouldn't have to keep asking people if it was unnessary to post certain background cars, unless it wasn't immediately why it was there. But this thread is supposed to address the practise of posting background cars in general, not just your efforts.[/quote]
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wrenchhead

Quote From: philr

Another thing that I miss on this site is more pictures of car details and interiors. I'm also interested in seeing partial views of cars when they clearly show details of them.

I also like details/interior pics but only as thumbnails and not as the main or only picture for the car.

antp

But what is the "present system"? As some seem to put way much more background cars than others. It was more a question of respecifying the existing rules rather than create new ones to remove most of the background cars

Sunbar

I'm against adding extra rules for background cars as I find the current way of dealing with them works quite well. The only criteria should be if the picture is clear enough for the vehicle to be identified.

'Special', 'unusual' or 'interesting' are largely irrelevant terms I think because they are so objective and depend on who is making the judgement.
My attitude might be different to a lot of peoples but whereas I do have some preferred vehicles, I find almost all vehicles interesting. From cranes to tanks, cars to trucks, and bikes to steam engines they are all of interest. The age of vehicle (or of the movie itself) also makes for an interesting record of motoring history or styling. Even recent models within a few years or decades become 'rare' with the once common models not being preserved in favour or the 'interesting' ones. So for me the more that can be listed the better. Just make them as clear as possible (not blurred) and keep the number of background vehicles within an acceptable number consistent with the amount of vehicles seen in the movie.

Quantity is important and where it would be possible to list a great number of pictures some selection is necessary to reduce the number to an acceptable amount. However in those cases the ones that are most clearly seen for the longest period of time should be chosen I think.

I think the present system works quite well and applying a little common-sense is better than strict rules. I'm also fully in favour of other contributors making suggestios - either to add or remove cars - to keep things tidy.

valiant1962

Quote From: DIEHARD

I think in General we should stick to these rules:
They could be listed as background cars, even with a lower quality image if:
1. The make or model is uncommon
2. The make or model is not uncommon but it is a Special Version agg. limited edition of a model (and can be identified likewise)
3. The car is set in an ackward location/country where it is more uncommon, or where one would not except this kind of car.
4. The car is delibaretly planted on a movie set (and possibly could be in a wrong time area or place area as a result of bad casting)

This appears to be an example of point 2 - http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_73835-Chevrolet-Citation-1980.html - not just a plain ordinary Chev Citation, but an unusual limited edition variation. By some suggestions this should not be included, but if it wasn't listed it may not have been identified as a unique variation, (therefore of more interest, even though the shot is not great). Just thought this might be a good example of the other side of the argument.

dwd4X4

If you can see a background vehicle (as long as you can see it), its fine in my opinion.

antp

When some people asked if we could delete it, and if I agree, and that the sender of the picture (or someone else) didn't justify the presence of the car.
But as I said previously, I really didn't delete many vehicles. Most of those that I deleted were unidentifiable & unidentified background things that were on the site since one year.

garco

All comments? :alarmclock114:

What is your criteria to delete an entry then? Maybe you should do that more often.... :wink:

antp

garco >> I check all comments, so an automated thing is not really useful if the final decision has to be taken by myself.

ben68

My criteria to make the posting of a "*" background car relevant, for any types/makes/models of cars, rare or not, are the following:
- Before any picture zooming or cutting, the car should take at least 25% of the original picture
- The body of the vehicle should be at least 50% visible
- The vehicle may not be blurred at all!
- If there are many background cars of the same make/model/year(?) in the same movie, only record one (having the most beautiful/detailed picture) - the other ones being posted as thumbnails in the comment area.
In some very rare cases, exception could be made. F.i.: a Ferrari 250 GTO in a swimming pool, a Mercedes 300 SL digged into the sand of the Sahara from which only the rear part is visible, the one and only vehicle in a video clip or movie, a blurred Citroën 2 CV on the Moon, etc.
Feel free to comment.
Ben

garco

Quote From: antp

That's me who added that one :ddr555:

It is well visible, and seen for some time, I thought it was worth mentionning it...

Yes, if fully seen & clear, it could be included in all cases.
It is when it is not well visible, far, etc. that the rarity of the car counts: a small/blurry Iso Grifo is more interesting to mention than a small/flurry Chevrolet Caprice taxi :wink:

If all admins keep this in mind, everything is going to be OK and I think everybody can live with that! :sol:

What about the option 'marked for delete' I mentioned somewhere in this topic? When 3 (or 4,5,6) different admins think the car can be deleted, an automatic email is sent to antp, he can decide to delete it or not. I think it's a good idea, but that will need some technical changes...