Oh wait, I see the ones you mean now. I saw them but I hadn't even noticed that it was you who had posted them

Yeah, they're pretty nice cars. I like the Rolls Royce the most. I could fit my "fat yank" self into it more easily than a Porche or Ferarri.

That's me all right

But really, I'm not criticizing small Euro cars I'm just pointing out that they are quite a bit smaller than SUVs and Vans




Which ones would you be referring to now?

Only if you're a fat Yank

Anyway taxiguy, have you seen the photos I posted in the "interesting/funny/special cars sightings" topic?

Probably becuase all the cars in Europe, even luxury ones, are tiny. Besides even if you want that kind of space, just get a minivan instead, it's better and more practical.

At Goodwood yesterday I went to the Land Rover stand and sat inside a Range Rover, and actually it's very nice inside and it had more space than all luxury sedans I sat in (including a Merc S-Class). I thought it would be a nice car to be a passenger in on a long journey (although I didn't actually ride in it). And it's still a highly capable offroader than can tow 3.5 tons. BUT I still wouldn't buy one (not that I could afford one, not anytime soon) unless I needed to go offroad, I have to stay true to my principles and on the outside it's still too brash, it would be a bugger to park and I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an overpriviledged parent on the school-run. But then again every glamorous car could be associated with rich idiots (footballers, socialites, talentless celebrities, trophy wives), so what can you do? But if I HAD to have a luxury SUV I guess it would be a Range Rover.

You're absolutley right about that, Neptune which is part of the problem. The other part is that cars in the US & Canada shrunk during the late-1970's, making driver seek vehicles that could do the jobs that cars were no longer able to do, and SUV's were among the light-duty trucks that served as replacements. G-MANN is also right about the European vs. American view of what's considered big, since we've had bigger cars and trucks in the post-war era than they've had.

Don't forget the G-wagen.
I think the Cayenne is suprisingly capable off road, but I don't know that it could handle doing 'work'. I'd guess not.

"A SUV is not a truck" - the newest judgement of the highest German courthouse. It goes for SUV's over 2.8 tons. This means, that an owner of a big SUV has to pay up to ten times higher yearly taxes.

Let my correct myself, when I say full potential I mean to the extent of staying safe and keeping it in one piece (because I don't have a winch and sometimes go out alone).

Well said G-Mann, I have to agree with you because you're right. I would never own a SUV just for the sake of it without using it to the full potential (ie off-road). Just like it is silly to own an F350 with dual tires in the back and never transport or tow anything.