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JB007
Indeed that second image is from a Canadian magazine, but have you searched/found more evidence? Was that change consistent/permanent or did they use both names after that?
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/166071004935
https://www.flickr.com/photos/autohistorian/41086554442/in/photostream/
antp
The changeover from 5 to LeCar in Canada was in 1979:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767171214
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/68/2f/9c682f965d3f380afaa09d80936ec725.jpg
Indeed that second image is from a Canadian magazine, but have you searched/found more evidence? Was that change consistent/permanent or did they use both names after that?
antp
they still specify: "The International M1224 MaxxPro MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) is an armored fighting vehicle designed by American company Navistar International's subsidiary Navistar Defense".
Designed by, but not sold by.
Like we have cars designed by other companies than the company directly linked to their make
JB007
For all "1979+ Renault 5" for Canada market (Made for CDN).
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1979&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=renault&modelMatch=0&model=5&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&class10=- 10&origin=&madein=&madefor=CDN&role=
Model is "LeCar" and chassis-code is "5".
The changeover from 5 to LeCar in Canada was in 1979:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767171214
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/68/2f/9c682f965d3f380afaa09d80936ec725.jpg
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1979&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=renault&modelMatch=0&model=5&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&class10=- 10&origin=&madein=&madefor=CDN&role=
Model is "LeCar" and chassis-code is "5".
The changeover from 5 to LeCar in Canada was in 1979:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767171214
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/68/2f/9c682f965d3f380afaa09d80936ec725.jpg
JB007
"Navistar Defense" is the company, not the make. On Wikipedia they still refer these as just Navistar like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_7000_series
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all
Vehicles for specific markets could be branded "Navistar" and vehicles for the general public could be branded "International".
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
they still specify: "The International M1224 MaxxPro MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) is an armored fighting vehicle designed by American company Navistar International's subsidiary Navistar Defense".
antp
"Navistar Defense" is the company, not the make. On Wikipedia they still refer these as just Navistar like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_7000_series
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all
JB007
I just found out that the brand "Navistar" had been created.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Navistar.html
Two of the vehicles referenced are military vehicles that have also been referenced under the make "International".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html
Official Make is "Navistar Defense", military branch of Navistar International.
https://www.nddefense.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_Defense_LLC
So we should rename them under the make "International"?
Or if you want to be correct, rename them under the make "Navistar Defense".
These are the vehicles concerned:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MaxxPro.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-MVA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-APC.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-7000+MV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_248837-International-7400-MV-2005.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1915304-International-7400-2006.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Navistar.html
Two of the vehicles referenced are military vehicles that have also been referenced under the make "International".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html
Official Make is "Navistar Defense", military branch of Navistar International.
https://www.nddefense.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_Defense_LLC
So we should rename them under the make "International"?
Or if you want to be correct, rename them under the make "Navistar Defense".
These are the vehicles concerned:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MaxxPro.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-MVA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-APC.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-7000+MV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_248837-International-7400-MV-2005.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1915304-International-7400-2006.html
antp
Still a few other 1995:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644564-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644759-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1754797-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1851665-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1861090-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
and a 1998:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_423834-Kia-Granbird-1998.html
I also change them I suppose?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644564-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644759-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1754797-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1851665-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1861090-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
and a 1998:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_423834-Kia-Granbird-1998.html
I also change them I suppose?
ChaserX
Please Change Vehicle Make For "Asia"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1903364-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1881480-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1732697-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671672-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671583-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1649327-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1954230-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1942040-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
Wiki:
https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C?fr- om=%EC%95%84%EC%8B%9C%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C#s-2.1
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84_%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%- 93%9C
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1903364-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1881480-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1732697-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671672-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671583-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1649327-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1954230-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1942040-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
Wiki:
https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C?fr- om=%EC%95%84%EC%8B%9C%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C#s-2.1
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84_%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%- 93%9C
antp
Not all should be changed.
SD is just for the 2000-2003, right?
The later ones are these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Cerato
for which LD is correct.
There are also many 2006 & 2008 made in Russia, are these correct with FB? Or is it also SD? Or is that something else?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=Spe- ctra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
(2 pages)
SD is just for the 2000-2003, right?
The later ones are these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Cerato
for which LD is correct.
There are also many 2006 & 2008 made in Russia, are these correct with FB? Or is it also SD? Or is that something else?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=Spe- ctra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
(2 pages)