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Harold B
antp asked me to make a post here about the idea of removing the quote marks around the names of American "General" tanks (M3 and M5 Stuart, M3 Lee/M3 Grant, M4 Sherman, M8 Scott, M24 Chaffee, M26 Pershing, M36 Jackson, M41 Walker Bulldog, M46/47/48 Patton, M551 Sheridan, M1 Abrams, M2 Bradley, M8 Buford, M10 Booker) in case anyone had a problem with that.

The names are official and appear on the manuals for some those vehicles, they aren't unofficial nicknames. For the WW2 vehicles the general names are the sole name they were known by to Commonwealth forces (UK, Canada, etc). "M3" didn't fit in the British naming scheme of [name][mark x], so they came up with Lee and the Americans adopted it retroactively.

https://i.imgur.com/LING34V.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/zoTPOZr.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/ukWDrDT.jpeg

Other nicknames, like M7 Priest, M36 Slugger, Jumbo (for M4A3E2 Sherman), and M151 Mutt were used at least to some degree by the troops but were not officially adopted. Those ones I would have put in quotes.

M18 Hellcat was an official nickname and unlike the rest came from the manufacturer, Buick.

It's worth noting here the M60 family of tanks did not have any nickname. It was specifically said during development that they were not to be called "Patton".

"Wolverine" for the M10 3in GMC is completely made up and was never used by anyone. It is believed to have come from a toy company probably in the 1990s.

Edit: Correction, Priest was at least going to be adopted officially by the US Army, but I don't know if they followed up on that. It was official to the British.
https://i.imgur.com/QT0PAeL.png
antp
Thanks, updated
Lateef
Yes, production ran from 1936-40 so those listed as 1935 should be updated instead.
antp


There are two as 1936, are these correct? (one was set by Lateef, who usually knows his stuff :D)
Harold B
I assume then that the changes other than those you quoted are OK to apply then?


I don't see anything else wrong, but I don't know the years by heart.
antp
I assume then that the changes other than those you quoted are OK to apply then?
Harold B
I was a little lost between all there references :smile:
I renamed the vehicles to add the S, and added the old make to the list of automatic fixes so in case the name without S is searched on entered, it is automatically updated.


Sorry about that. I'm used to people being stubborn and having to provide a whole bunch of evidence to convince them.

For all "Renault FT", model is "FT17" and year is "1917+".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Renault_model-FT.html

No it isn't. I just asked him to change this on the previous page of this thread. The proper name is Renault FT. Renault didn't use numbers in their model designations (except for two specific exceptions which I mentioned).




This is also wrong. You're confusing the manufacturer's name, Panhard 178, with the French army's name, AMD 35. In the case of the "AMD 178B" specifically you're probably taking it from the "world of tanks" game? I'm guessing, because that's the first google result for that phrase. Don't ever do that. All of the "history" from that game is BS.
The vehicle in those last two images isn't even an AMD 35 B, it's a one-off prototype that didn't receive a name. https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2-france-panhard-178-renault-47mm-gun-turret/ "Panhard 178 47mm" is the best description since you have to call it something.
antp
I was a little lost between all there references :smile:
I renamed the vehicles to add the S, and added the old make to the list of automatic fixes so in case the name without S is searched on entered, it is automatically updated.
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