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Published 25/01/2007 @ 21:04:02, By ahight
I agree about the Corolla too. It looks fine to me. I know Tonkatracker likes the Sidekick, that's why I mentioned if he could get a better photo we could upload it. He responded back that he couldn't. Using the Sidekick as an example...that seems too far away vs the Corolla and wouldn't make a good background car.

I also agree with Raul1983 about what might not have been interesting cars now, might be in 2017. Now that i'm doing 80's movies...i'm finding a bunch of 80's cars that you rarely see on the roads anymore...but back then they were as common as a Corolla now. So if this site existed back then, then those cars wouldn't have been included (and we'd be doing captures in DOS or something like that).

That's why i would think if there was a rule about background cars, it should be about size and if they're recognizable. If there's any mention of feelings toward the popularity of a car will just keep issues like this going all the time where one person think's "it's just a Corolla" and one person thinks "well it's easily identifiable" If it can be clearly seen and capturable then it should be good.

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Published 25/01/2007 @ 21:15:47, By ahight
btw..i saw the post about Borat.

now my first thoughts on that are...yes there are a lot of background cars, but once the captures can be taken from a legal DVD when it's released i bet most of them would come out clearer. i'm wondering if those were clearer because it's from a DVD would there be as much of an issue than now because they're blurry from how ever that movie was recorded.
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Published 25/01/2007 @ 21:32:25, By G-MANN
It's not the clearness, the images are clear enough, I just don't see the point of listing every single parked car Borat happens to drive past in his ice-cream van.
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Published 25/01/2007 @ 23:14:15, By stronghold
"don't bother with pointless comments.?"

I only post those comments to try and make the contributor think about whether he should have added that kind of entry. I don't want to delete cars on someone else's page because I wouldn't like it someone screwed around with my pages. Sometimes some of the unidentified vehicles I've posted have been deleted, I don't mind too much because if I think the vehicle has any relevance and is still possible to identify I'll put it back on. Would you rather other admins went through your films and deleted loads of stuff?


If you read my comments properly ,you would have seen I was talking about antp ..the chief admin ..Not you.! (when did you start running the site?)
I don't want other admins messing about with pictures i've added.
But as said, antp is in charge & i'll respect any decisions he makes on removing unwanted vehicles.
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Published 25/01/2007 @ 23:19:21, By G-MANN
I know what you said, me quoting it kind of takes it out of context, but somehow I got the impression that the "pointless comments" bit was referring to me as well. But no I don't run this site and I'm not going to delete other people's stuff without permission, although some entries I've made have been deleted during a cleanup of unidentified vehicles, but I don't mind at all.

Latest Edition: 25/01/2007 @ 23:21:47
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Published 25/01/2007 @ 23:26:40, By stronghold
I think it's good that Stronghold posts thumbnails of the title sequence of TV shows in the comments, maybe I'll do that with this show.

I've been doing this more recently as I think it attracts users to the site (makes the page stand out, so to speak)
It's Not essential (..and takes up a little space.!)but it looks good.!
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Published 25/01/2007 @ 23:59:52, By wickey

I still feel that background cars are important.....as long as they're visible.


definitely. that is exactly what I think. Only criteria for deleting / adding should be the visibility.
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:03:06, By wickey
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_68824-Toyota-Corolla-1994.html Neither of those vehicles are worth listing.


well for you :grin: - I will definitely list the Corolla. (probably we will not find the definitive solution, as our opinions are different :sad: )

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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:06:03, By wickey
But why is it important to list that Corolla anyway? It's completely background and it's ONLY a Corolla. Does anyone really care about them?


well in case I am a corolla owner (that year and model) I will be glad to find it on the site. If you go visit any enthusiasts page, that is dedicated to some mark / model and they have a movies zone, you will find, that those people really spot any tiny rear-window, 2-pixel-high pic of their vehicles in the movies :smile:

So the thing not interesting to you might be interesting for someone else and I believe, that our duty as admins is to provide entertainment and joy to these vehicle-nuts :smile:
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:08:21, By antp
The fact that IMCDb is a general site for all cars means that we cannot be as specific as a dedicated site.
So for a site that lists all SAABs the one from "Big" is worth mentionning, but it is too small/hidden for imcdb :ohwell: (even for me, a SAAB fan :grin: )

I would say the same for the SAAB in Bullit, but it seems so popular that I couldn't remove it... http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_298-SAAB-96.html

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 00:09:56
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:14:53, By wickey
LOL that ssab rulez :grin: I know, that is probbaly too much. I think, that the best solution will be to stay with the "creative freedom" as the admins have now. Why try to mess with some others work? Majority of us added a lot of movies and tons of vehicles, everyone has his (unfortunately no "her" here yet) own style and criteria.

"It's all about freedom, man... :weed: :smile: "
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:18:41, By antp
But to prevent from falling in anarchy, the freedom need limits :grin:
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:23:15, By wickey
you've got certain point there. I only think, that one demanding admin (sorry G-Mann - no offense), is not the reason to delete half of the vehicles (not literally)... And I still believe more in ones experiences, than the strict rules.. :halalala:

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 00:23:42
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:25:50, By G-MANN
you've got certain point there. I only think, that one demanding admin (sorry G-Mann - no offense), is not the reason to delete half of the vehicles (not literally)


That's why we're holding a poll, so everyone can have their say.

Also I only think there should be any possibility of new policies being made if there is a clear landslide, not a 5 to 4 ratio or something similar.

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 00:29:16
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:33:21, By antp
The good choice is between the two.
At one side we have sixcyl, stronghold, coopey, etc. that put too many background cars. At the other side there is G-MANN that wants nearly no background car :grin:
I do not really see the point of a poll, as it is clear that some background cars are not worth listed (and as everybody always says that it is up to me to decide :whistle: ). But these are a minority.
I wonder why G-MANN wanted so much to delete that Volvo, as there are many other background cars that have a real reason to be deleted.
e.g. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_82519-Ford-unknown-1950.html to take a recent example. For me this has no reason to be listed.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7589/berlineus38xg.jpg vs http://www.imcdb.org/images/020/522.jpg ...

About policies/rules, there aren't any "new" ones that should be set. So a poll won't change much. Since long time I repeated the same about these too-background cars.
When they are submitted in contributions I refuse them, e.g.:
http://forum.imcdb.org/forum_topic-1235-na_Audi_A6_C5_in_King_s_Ransom.html
http://forum.imcdb.org/forum_topic-1221-na_Audi_A6_Avant_C5_in_Pitbull.html
http://forum.imcdb.org/forum_topic-1447-na_Audi_A6_Avant_C5_in_Analyze_That.html
But when they are added by admins, I cannot refuse, only solution is to delete after :ohwell:

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 00:37:05
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:37:15, By wickey
as an old swedish proverb say: "Let the moose kicks anyone, who touches my Volvo." :lol:

Now seriously - that Ford is really a bit too much - we should focus rather on such cars instead of the visible, but "not worthy" ones :smile:
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:37:46, By Neptune
I agree; there should be a responsible set of rules for governing background vehicles put in place. But in order for it to work, it must be enforced. :wink:
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 00:52:19, By G-MANN
I think things need to be trimmed down a bit and I want to encourage other admins to be more selective. Sometimes I'd finish doing a film where I'd listed most of the cars that were actually properly used in it and someone would come along later and add some inferior quality pictures of boring cars that happened to be in the background and I just think "what's the point?" Two example of this are Malcolm X and Little Britain (though I dislike that show now so I don't care about that page too much) and these entries:

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_39105-Honda-Accord-SJ-SY-1976.html (just a dull, passing by car, whereas the other background cars I posted were from deliberate establishing shots where the car was pretty much the subject of the frame)

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_38202-Volkswagen-Golf-Typ-1H.html

I could also mention Mean Streets and Taxi Driver, but since they are from the 70s the cars in them are slightly rarer now.

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 01:05:06
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 01:43:09, By Ralph
My rules for background cars:

-rar Handmade or special custom cars
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_75150-Honda-600-Coupe-AZ600-1971.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_70200-Iso-Rivolta-Fidia-1969.html

-Oldtimer
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_82448-Buick-unknown-1940.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_75149-Toyota-Corona-1500-GT-RT50-1965.html

-special show with the camera
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_75142-Cadillac-Series-62-1959.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_60595-Liebherr-R-994.html

-the Film Director will give a info (time or country) with this car.
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_71348-Jeep-CJ-2A.html

-rar car on this place to this time*
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_67420-Ford-Cortina-Lotus-1963.html

-special set decoration**
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_38208-Fiat-1100-A-1939.html

* meens a Renault 4 in a Tokyo (Japan) movie was filmed and played in 2003
** meens newer movie, played in older time (so all background cars are set decoration)

no listing for normal background cars for this time and this place.
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 01:49:47, By landrover1
im tired of contruction vehiclkes that have nothing to car in the movie...so we can delete alot of that vehicles
and all the cars that arent so visible in the pics...because u need more than a look to find them and that's annoying sometimes...

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 01:50:18
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Published 26/01/2007 @ 01:54:52, By bent8rover
Who do other administrators and regular members think?


Hello all. I've been enjoying this site for some months now, contributing just recently.

As 'a member' I have to agree with the sentiment. I will admit to being one the members who send over background cars that are of interest to me - and others if posts are anything to go by - but play no role in the movie and could easily have been a dustbin by the roadside.

I think the success of the site (and it has been a success!) has to play in-between the seriousness of a respected database, yet be enjoyable to help build. But the enjoyable part is what is the problem here, as at times the identification of vehicles can be a game. No doubt this has been said before, but I wanted to express some input on this thread, at the same time as showing appreciation of the efforts of you all.

So to be clear, yes, even as a recent 'member', I feel a 'tightening-up' of rules is required to keep the credibility of the site.

(As a result, my posting of images to the contribution inbox is going to have many BG vehicles removed :shy: )

Latest Edition: 26/01/2007 @ 01:58:22
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