I am glad that I have the snorkel, but it doesn't even need to be as high as it is, I know I will not be taking it that deep in the water The deepest I have taken the Liberty was during Hurricane Irene when water was just cresting over the front edge of the hood (I still have water in my fog lights as a souvenir Some of my past Suzukis/Trackers have also had snorkels and I have taken them up to the windshield in water but they were much simpler/cheaper vehicles with much less electronic and computer controlled equipment.

as for the 77 it needs a few things and I like it but I didn't build it I bought it like it is (which is a first for me) It is a lot of fun though. I got it from a family friend who built it for rock crawling out in California. It is geared way to low to daily drive though.

here is a shot of all of the Libertys together, the blue one is my wife's, while the dark green one is the "spare car" The Light Green one with the orange hood is actually a DaimlerChrysler pre-production model of the Renegade but it spent its entire life in Michigan (most of it on a backlot rotting away) so it has a lot of rust on it. I will be turning it into a strickly off-road toy (topless/doorless)