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Published 25/11/2022 @ 07:24:35, By Parzival49
Should we change the tag of CMC Varica and Veryca to
Model origin: JP — Built in: TW — Made for: RC ?

Varica is based on CMC Minicab [U10], but CMC Minicab is based on the Mitsubishi's version
Veryca is based on Mitsubishi Town Box Wide [U60], but heavily modified the exterior

Also, some of the CMC Minicab chassis code were missing [U10]
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=CMC&model=Min- icab&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

As for Veryca Magic, Magic is also part of the name
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1586311
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1191729


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Published 26/11/2022 @ 08:47:39, By antp
Should we change the tag of CMC Varica and Veryca to
Model origin: JP — Built in: TW — Made for: RC ?

Varica is based on CMC Minicab [U10], but CMC Minicab is based on the Mitsubishi's version
Veryca is based on Mitsubishi Town Box Wide [U60], but heavily modified the exterior



From what they say on Wikipedia, maybe JP origin only until 1989, as it was restyled in Taiwan after that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMC_Veryca#Third_generation_(1989-1997)
But maybe the article is not precise enough

Latest Edition: 26/11/2022 @ 08:51:04
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Published 26/11/2022 @ 13:19:15, By Parzival49
Ok, after some searching, Varica from 1989 to 2007 were indeed R&D in Taiwan
https://www.7car.tw/articles/read/548
Then these should change to Model origin: TW
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1034065
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1584406
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1223776
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=885930
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=115009
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1583298
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1197920
I cane help to identify the model year later

As for Veryca, it's kind of like Delica, their chassis were based on Japanese version even the exterior is different now
https://newcar.u-car.com.tw/CMC/VerycaE8%B2%A8%E8%BB%8A/5340/history?utm_source=newcar&utm_mediu- m=tab&utm_campaign=history

Latest Edition: 26/11/2022 @ 13:20:08
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Published 28/11/2022 @ 08:26:40, By antp
Is "Super" part of the name?
Not just "V365T" ?

Also, is this one also V365T ? https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_470043-Daewoo-Super-V-1993.html
Or are there other V-something?
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Published 30/11/2022 @ 11:58:51, By 48bux
Hi,
code for all vans "Fiat 1100 T" is [217]. Thanks in advance :wink:
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Published 01/12/2022 @ 13:51:24, By antp
Updated
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Published 05/12/2022 @ 23:40:41, By 48bux
According to Alex's findings posted here:
https://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1127898
I think we can change all Fiat Duna, Duna Weekend, Elba, Premio, Penny, Citivan to [155], like we already use for Innocenti Elba.
Also, we can uniform all Fiat Fiorino 2a serie to origin: Brazil.
Thanks in advance :smile:

Latest Edition: 05/12/2022 @ 23:56:16
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 08:06:59, By antp
Done
There are a few 1a serie that should be changed to origin=Italy, I suppose?
https://imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Fiat&model=Fiorin- o
Also, why so many made for tags (I, D, F, etc.)? What's specific in these versions?
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 12:05:34, By 48bux
Were already there, but the first series wasn't sold in the same guise/motors in all markets of Europe (for example GB always got the italian version and never the brazilian/diesel/unified front ones) so I think were added for this reason :wink:
I believe first series that have origin BR are the diesel version which was based on the brazilian 147 and was built there, I'll take a look later and change manually if needed. Anyway thank you! :smile:

Edit: done.

Latest Edition: 06/12/2022 @ 13:00:49
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 12:58:28, By dhill_cb7
How does everyone feel about changing the origin for the R51 Nissan Pathfinder? These were never sold in Japan. I believe US was the first market to get them in 2004 followed by EU in early 2005.

Question is do we mass update them to US origin for all R51 ? Do we only update NA spec models to US origin ? Do we update Spanish built to EU origin?

Do we leave them alone? Seems silly since Japan did not domestically produce the R51. Any thoughts on this?
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 13:23:01, By antp

I believe first series that have origin BR are the diesel version which was based on the brazilian 147 and was built there


:confused: It was not just a different engine in the same car?
Or were both versions really different?
Also, what about the early 127 Fiorino?
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 13:25:45, By antp

Question is do we mass update them to US origin for all R51 ? Do we only update NA spec models to US origin ? Do we update Spanish built to EU origin?
Do we leave them alone? Seems silly since Japan did not domestically produce the R51. Any thoughts on this?


It has no sense to have a different origin between NA and EU models if they're basically the same vehicle :confused: That's rather the role of the "made in" & "made for" fields.

Even if they did not produce it in Japan, the "origin" country is rather from which Nissan branch it was conceived. Was it from Nissan America or Europe? Or from the Japanese headquarters?

There are many cars that were never produced in their "home" country (being American or Japanese cars, or from the various European countries)

Latest Edition: 06/12/2022 @ 13:28:38
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Published 06/12/2022 @ 13:30:04, By 48bux
No, they had different fronts and also some differences in mechanics, suspension etc. The early 1978-80 127 Fiorino and italian-built 1980-82 Fiorino were based on italian 127, whereas the diesel ones and 1983+ "unified front" Fiorino were based on brazilian 147 and built in Brazil :wink: those brazilian-built ones weren't available in some EU markets like GB, Sweden and possibly others which continued to receive italian-built ones without diesel engine.

Latest Edition: 06/12/2022 @ 13:32:50
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Published 07/12/2022 @ 17:07:41, By antp
As the mk2 was the only one build by Hyundai, is it really useful to have that Series II included? (which should then be Mk2) ?
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Published 07/12/2022 @ 17:11:14, By antp
No, they had different fronts and also some differences in mechanics, suspension etc. The early 1978-80 127 Fiorino and italian-built 1980-82 Fiorino were based on italian 127, whereas the diesel ones and 1983+ "unified front" Fiorino were based on brazilian 147 and built in Brazil :wink: those brazilian-built ones weren't available in some EU markets like GB, Sweden and possibly others which continued to receive italian-built ones without diesel engine.


OK :smile: Maybe it would be better to include "Diesel" in the model name of the pre-1983 models, to make them more identifiable? (instead of just "D" in extra info, as they were badged as such, no?)
Weird that they kept the Italian model just for some market after that...

Latest Edition: 07/12/2022 @ 17:11:56
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Published 07/12/2022 @ 20:05:07, By 48bux
They are currently split by the specific code [127A.5], so maybe not really necessary?
Yes, that was a quite weird situation :grin:
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Published 08/12/2022 @ 13:06:46, By ChaserX
As the mk2 was the only one build by Hyundai, is it really useful to have that Series II included? (which should then be Mk2) ?



Yes (Hyundai Ford Granada Only)
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Published 08/12/2022 @ 13:57:15, By dsl
I don't know Hyundai Granada details, but browsing our collection they seem to match European sequence very closely, with an initial version and then a minor facelift. We call all this body Granada Mk2, with no change in name for the facelift.

1at version - 1979+ for Hyundai - plain black grille, vertical rear lights - example
2nd version - 1982+ for Hyundai - new 3 bar grille, ridged rear lights - example

I suggest they are all entered as Mk2 to follow Europe sequence, but no need to split further before/after 1982 facelift.
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Published 08/12/2022 @ 14:40:13, By antp
Yes they match the mk2, but what I meant is that all the Hyundai versions were mk2, so I wondered if the mk was needed for that one.
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