Subject: The power to add pictures
11/10/2008 @ 14:09:20: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
Now i know that currently this power is only available to admins, and i'm hoping that others agree with me , that JUST this privilege can be given to people who are willing and ready to add pictures of cars in episodes of a TV show almost as soon as it's finished(a bit of exaggeration but you get the idea).
We shouldn't have to wait for days for an admin to do it who started it and then doesn't continue, when they are supposed to be die hard devoted people who will get it done ASAP, that's why they are admins, but ive yet to see this.
I am currently referring to Top Gear AUS; i put the photos of ep 1x02 in the forum to be used and they havent, neither has any other admin added his own shots.
We need people who are dedicated to getting the job done ASAP so that everyone on the outside knows what cars were featured if they don't know. Which is why i say that some people should be given the privilege to add pictures, NOT full admin rights, just that one.
11/10/2008 @ 16:43:01: antp: The power to add pictures
That's why I have to separate the admin in two things: power to add pictures, and power to make changes to the vehicles, comments, etc.
But I still haven't taken time to make that.
Note that if your pictures are ready to be uploaded (i.e. proper file size and weight) they are usually processed much faster by admins.
And your pics are NOT in that case. So even if you were admin on the site you could not upload them: the site would refuse them due to their size :tongue:
That resize/recompress could be done by the site when uploading pics, but here again when that will be added it will be easier for admins, so no need to give rights to every body who submits pictures.
12/10/2008 @ 02:10:28: CarChasesFanatic: The power to add pictures
We shouldn't have to wait for days for an admin to do it who started it and then doesn't continue, when they are supposed to be die hard devoted people who will get it done ASAP, that's why they are admins, but ive yet to see this.
I am currently referring to Top Gear AUS; i put the photos of ep 1x02 in the forum to be used and they havent, neither has any other admin added his own shots.


I stood some phrases you said refering to me on the site and i turned a blind eye as if i hadnt seen them just to not start a debate but with this you've ended up annoying me, who do you think you are to say things like what i quote above, "shouldn't wait for an admin who started it and doesnt continue" ? you state that? YOU that are new on the site? YOU that have never contribute in any way before? are YOU really saying that refering to me? take note of this boy, i can start a show whenever i want as can the rest of the admins/users of this site, and there's no rule stating how long between an episode and another the time should be, what do you know if i stopped doing the show or not? you just base your ideas on how long i take to put the second one? this show is not the only thing i contribute to in this database.

Then you say again "when they are supposed to be die hard devoted people who will get it done ASAP, that's why they are admins, but ive yet to see this" but once again, who the hell do you think you are to say those things huh? have you ever contributed to anything? have you ever happened to follow what i upload to this site? you know nothing, you come here as a new user and start saying things as if you had been here for years when you havent, what do you know if i'm die hard on my work towards this site or not, i think all the movie/shows that i have uploaded make count of all my "work" (which i love doing since i take it as a hobby, as i suppose everybody does in the site) and it's actually all of us who are "yet to see" any contribution from you, until then dont dare you to treat us like that, or at least me becuase i wont tolerate it be sure of that.


We need people who are dedicated to getting the job done ASAP so that everyone on the outside knows what cars were featured if they don't know. Which is why i say that some people should be given the privilege to add pictures, NOT full admin rights, just that one.


What do you know if we need people or not?? we have people doing things as soon as possible which is not even a rule, that's something you're just saying, everybody ends up adding what they can and the rest always know as you say "what cars were featured if they dont know" which is what the web is actually about/for, each of us who are now admins (even counting the boss who was a submitter at the very beginning of the site) have "earned" this privilege uploading and uploading pictures to the site, and nobody has ever dared to ask for admins rights when he has just about arrived to the site, at least not with this unbearable insistence, even if Antoine happened to create that system he explains above some day i wouldnt give them to you, you've showed that you are not deserving of those rights.

I started Top Gear Australia because i saw none Australian member had started it so i decided to give it a try since i was interested in the show because i like watching a show from another continent to learn about it's cars etc, i added the first episode four days after it was aired, if you could had been "much faster" where were your pics the day after??

I agree at some point that an Australian member could had done it but none seemed to be interested, and note that it takes longer for me to get the episode since i cannot record it whatsoever, so you had time there, the thing is that it's me doing the first season now, and if you had been more kind i with no doubt would had let you do it, but boy you went the wrong way, i'm not willing to give in to it, so don't bother submitting new pictures to the forum because they wont be uploaded, unless another Australian member asks for it i'll keep uploading the pictures myself, that's that.
12/10/2008 @ 14:57:41: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
[quote]ho do you think you are to say things like what i quote above, "shouldn't wait for an admin who started it and doesnt continue" ? you state that? YOU that are new on the site? YOU that have never contribute in any way before? are YOU really saying that refering to me?] how DARE you say that i am NEW and have contributed NOTHING. I have been here for just under a year now and i HAVE CONTRIBUTED here and there whenever i can when i see somtthing that is wrong or out of place. I dont have an encyclopedic knowledge on cars as you ssem to have so cant identify everything as much as others.
Yes i may have gone a tad overboard with this thread, and im sorry if i said anything to offend you, i just really needed to offend, although YOU have offended me as well, yes my username has boy in it, but you have no right to belittle me and call me boy like that.
[quote]Your first comment on the TG OZ page you practically said that yourself anyway. You practically said: "I;m an admin, i can do it myself, dont bother, P*** OFF since im the one whos gonna do it, so all youve done is repeat yourself. Also, you want people to contribute and now you dont. Yes again i may have been a bit overboard, but this site is about CONTRIBUTING and now you are telling me not to, that does not make sense. I will continue to post pics in the forum as soon as i have the episode. You want to make it easier upon yourself to not have to make so many screenshots, then use my pics. But if you want to make your life slightly harder and having to find the most perfect shot, then be my guest and ignore them, but as i said, i am trying to contribute to make things easier when it comes to getting pics.
12/10/2008 @ 15:59:55: antp: The power to add pictures
I think that my reply was a little more diplomatic than CarChasesFanatic's reply :figti:
Anyway as I said the problem is not in the fact that you are admin or not: if you were admin you could not upload the pics since they are too big. And if they are not too big they are quickly processed by Wampa-One (among others), who can easily add pics quickly but not especially resize them.
12/10/2008 @ 23:06:06: badlymad: The power to add pictures
What antp says pretty much sums up with problems I have when processing contributions- some are not compressed enough to fit a 80kb limit, while others are not scaled to a 720px width, which makes adding photos time consuming. You will note that Vilero, Chicomarx and others' contributions who fit the guidelines tend to be processed more rapidly as a result.
13/10/2008 @ 00:51:01: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
If only people were more understanding and as helpful as you tow. Thnx for that. I think i will take your guys advice and make the right size of pics. Episode 3 airs tonight meaning ill have it on my computer by tomorrow arvo and the pics by tomorrow evening, (this is australia time of course). So if i get the pictures the right size, here's hoping that once in the forum, some other admin is able to get to the pictures before carchases has a chance to get rid of them so that no one can use them, and that is just plain stupid.
So let me confirm, the max file size is 80kb and 720 px width, is that correct?
EDIT:I just had a go at this and can get 720px but its 80.3kb, is that acceptable or am i gonna have to wittle off the extra .3kb
13/10/2008 @ 02:19:13: CarChasesFanatic: The power to add pictures
You don't get it do you? plus you just put words in my mouth when i never said them, you said i practically told you "don't do this because i can do it myself" when it wasn't like that whatsoever, yet you invented it, and now you say that i will delete them when i've never said so? anyway hurry as much as you want but those pictures from you wont be submitted and if they happen to i will delete them ok? just take it into account :wink:
13/10/2008 @ 09:31:15: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
those pictures from you wont be submitted and if they happen to i will delete them ok? just take it into account :wink:

Is that wink supposed to mean something, myabe you didnt say it before, maybe you didnt, but that was the impression you have been giving. Now the wink and after you HAVE said it, are you just saying that to mean it or just playing with my head. BUt in this forum you HAVE said now twice "so don't bother submitting new pictures to the forum because they wont be uploaded"
I am TRYING to CONTRIBUTE and get over what has happened between us(you should try getting over it to), but if you want to be like the comment you have just said "they wont be submitted and if they do i will delete them" it proves you are being a total ***. So just knock it off and move on ok, i have!
13/10/2008 @ 10:14:23: antp: The power to add pictures

So let me confirm, the max file size is 80kb and 720 px width, is that correct?
EDIT:I just had a go at this and can get 720px but its 80.3kb, is that acceptable or am i gonna have to wittle off the extra .3kb


80 KB is a max, not a target size. You should compress to 20% (or set quality to 80%, depending on the program), which will give you files around 20-60 KB depending of their width/height.
13/10/2008 @ 12:02:39: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
Thnx antp you have been very helpful.I cant say the same about CCF, cos as you can see, even if i do get the right size and all, theres no point putting them up as even if another admin got to them, theyre mine, so carchases will just get rid of them and despite the bad blood that happened, that is completely and totally immature and stupid, not how an admin should behave.
13/10/2008 @ 12:26:28: CarChasesFanatic: The power to add pictures
It's not of how an admin should behave, i'd never do that otherwise, but i dont have to bear your behaviour, and you still want to move over it but yet you keep mentioning me.

But as you very well said, there's no point of submitting them, they wont go further from the forum.
13/10/2008 @ 12:40:07: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
But as you very well said, there's no point of submitting them, they wont go further from the forum.

Need i say more! Yes i do! I still really don't care, only YOU are saying that, there are HEAPS of other admins out there who have better attitudes towards contribution then you. And i keep mentioning YOU boy cos YOU are the one who is acting in YOUR manner cos YOU are the problem.
Just because YOU are an admin does not give you the right to act all high and mighty and ABUSE your PRIVILEGE. And if your gonna use it in this stupid and immature manner, then despite the fact you contribute heaps i dont see why you should rightfully have that power if YOUR gonna act this way.
13/10/2008 @ 13:12:39: CarChasesFanatic: The power to add pictures
And what if there are other admins? by the time i see them uploaded on the page i'll remove them, it is as simple as that, and its you who started all this not knowing how to behave propertly, implying things i never said and then thinking you can come here as new and do what you want, and you are not anybody to say whether i deserve this or not because your opinion doesnt count, it is you being immature over and over again because you just dont stop it, it's all said, and as i've said earlier i have never had any problem like this before, i'm not acting on a way or another but just responding back with more of the same that you give to me.

So keep dreaming because you won´t see them posted.
13/10/2008 @ 17:45:28: antp: The power to add pictures
by the time i see them uploaded on the page i'll remove them,


:heink: that's nice for the admin who would have taken time to upload these.

What is the problem actually? That he wants to submit them through the forum faster than what you do yourself?
As I did not follow the start of the discussion, I did not understand that you actually also get pics from that show, but that you get them a little later than what he submits.
Wasn't there some more subtle and gentle way to discuss that?
Indeed if you can get the pic few days after the show aired, it is maybe easier that you do the pics for that one yourself, but there are better way to explain it than how you did, I think :confused:
14/10/2008 @ 00:36:48: dragonboy3000: The power to add pictures
Again antp, you have responded in a way that is known to most human beings as being sensible.
But it doesn't matter anymore; I'm no longer gonna converse with him until he lets it all go, but when that WAS happening i e-mailed the higher power of IMCDb and went over his idiotic head and here was THEIR reply (again this THEIR reply, not mine):
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14/10/2008 @ 01:54:29: CarChasesFanatic: The power to add pictures
The only thing i will say is that i dont consider myself as an obstinate at all, i just said what i thought and you were more of the same, just that you feel more weak and try the hardest to solve this and make me look as the bad guy when it could had been as simple as just asking for it and you know you didnt, i've never been obstinated before it's always that i can't hide what i think when i reach to a point in where someone offends me or is against me with a high insistence, i'm fed up of you already.

With this you've just put the icing on the cake.
14/10/2008 @ 09:05:19: antp: The power to add pictures
dragonboy3000 >> you are not supposed to publish private messages in public.
Do not try to start a kind of war, you won't win that one.
As I said just above, I did not follow the start of the discussion.
I agree with CarChasesFanatic on the fact that it is easier that he puts the pic himself if he can get these quickly (four days is quick). What I was not agreeing with, is the way he said it.
Especially the part about remove your pics that another admin would have uploaded.
But be sure that no admin will upload pics if they know that CarChasesFanatic would do it anyway few days later (again, it is not like if we would have to wait 2 weeks to get the pics), as it would be wasted time compared to other contributions waiting to be processed.
Yes, not all people on the site have same rights, admins have higher priorities for posting things, but that's how the site works currently, you won't change it just because you want it different :tongue:
You are welcome to contribute on other movies/series/shows/etc., there are so many things not yet on the site.
18/10/2008 @ 07:33:22: stronghold: The power to add pictures
I've only just noticed this thread. (As I no longer check the forum on a daily basis)
I agree with CCF (check my original comments which were made before this discussion started here:- http://www.imcdb.org/yourcomments.php?archiveformovie=1251819, which have been archived?)
After just reading Dragonboys reply from that time (and doing some checking up)According to the IMCDB records, at that time you had only made 22 comments to the site (13 of those just episode numbers for top gear) and No actual vehicle identifications (where is this 'I've had my moments' comment coming from?) Also from the records I can see your first comment on the forum was this month and your first comment on the site was the 3rd may 2008.!
Strange that, as you've said Twice that you've been here almost a year (In Fact Not even half a year.!)
Get your facts right.
19/10/2008 @ 21:23:10: garco: The power to add pictures
Do I read the word obstinate? :2501:
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