Subject: Mass change model info thread
12/08/2025 @ 15:02:03: dhill_cb7: Mass change model info thread
Truck_Guy hasn't been active to confirm about the Dodge/Ram codes.
16/08/2025 @ 22:56:12: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Truck_Guy hasn't been active to confirm about the Dodge/Ram codes.

Ok.

Mk2 for all "2013+ Citroën C4 Sedan".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Citro%C3%ABn_model-C4+Sedan.html
Origin: China for all "Citroën C4 Lounge".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Citro%C3%ABn_model-C4+Lounge.html
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C4_(2010)#Version_tricorps
31/08/2025 @ 17:25:01: 48bux: Mass change model info thread
Can you please take off "built in Turkiye" from Renault Clio V [JA]? The Clio V is produced both in Turkey and Slovenia, and only way to know is the "VehicleFabNumber" given by the decoded VIN. It looks like these are too new yet to be decoded with the known free sites (I tried a few), so we will have to check in the future.
Only the ones in Turkey are for sure locally built it seems, so I will set the tag manually on those. :wink:
01/09/2025 @ 11:13:45: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
This one was listed as built in Slovenia, in case you want to change it back to that:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1948911-Renault-Clio-JA-2019.html
01/09/2025 @ 11:55:50: 48bux: Mass change model info thread
Thanks :smile: I'm doing that to keep as a reference. I'm also adjusting nomenclatures :smile:
08/09/2025 @ 13:50:01: MisterZ: Mass change model info thread
Move "Berlina" from extra info into model name (so becomes "Commodore Berlina"):

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=Holden&modelMatch=1&model=Berlina&modelInclExtra=on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=- &role=

[AU II] and [AU III] should just be [AU]:

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=Ford&modelMatch=1&model=AU+II&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=- &madein=&madefor=&role=

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=Ford&modelMatch=1&model=AU+III&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=- &madein=&madefor=&role=
08/09/2025 @ 17:16:08: antp: Mass change model info thread
How do we name the wagons among these?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Holden&model=- Commodore+Berlina
Like the sedans or with Wagon somewhere in the name? (or just in extra info?)
08/09/2025 @ 17:20:14: MisterZ: Mass change model info thread
If the wagon was already in the name, then keep it.
08/09/2025 @ 17:27:26: antp: Mass change model info thread
Then it is "Commodore Berlina Wagon"? (as before it was "Commodore Wagon Berlina").

For the AU II / AU III, maybe we could use the mk field and list these as Series II and Series III (and Series I for the early ones) ?
As on Wikipedia this is used:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Falcon_(AU)#Model_range
08/09/2025 @ 17:33:39: MisterZ: Mass change model info thread
Yes, Commodore Berlina Wagon would be correct.

As for the "mk" field for the Falcon, it's a good idea, but then we'd have to do it for EVERY single Falcon from the EA in 1988 right up to the FG in 2014. That's A LOT of cars to sort though (32 pages worth). And on top of that you'd have to add it for all Holden Commodores as well from 1988-2017! It might be simpler just to leave it out for all of them.
08/09/2025 @ 18:33:27: antp: Mass change model info thread
I thought it was something more used for the AU than for the others.
The year is maybe enough then
10/09/2025 @ 07:14:33: andyhao: Mass change model info thread
Antp, can you set Mk for Honda Activa/ Activa 100/ Activa 110/ Activa 125 as *G? Just like Mitsubishi Eclipse
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Mitsubishi&model=- Eclipse

Honda India use *G to refer the generations for Activa model
https://indianautosblog.com/honda-activa-3g-launched-p166619#lg=1&slide=3
https://gomechanic.in/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Activa-4G.jpg
10/09/2025 @ 15:36:24: POn: Mass change model info thread
The W220 was only one trim in the US (2006 S350) so most USDM are V220's
V221
V222
V223
10/09/2025 @ 20:19:59: walter.: Mass change model info thread
@antp can you please change all the 2003 Audi A3 8P models to 2004 https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Audi_model-Typ+8P.html and the 2006 TT 8J to 2007? https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Audi_model-Typ+8J.html

Thanks.
13/09/2025 @ 09:44:24: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done

The W220 was only one trim in the US (2006 S350) so most USDM are V220's

Can someone else confirm that this applies to the W220 too? As we already confirmed it for later models some time ago, but why does this come up only now?
13/09/2025 @ 13:11:30: 48bux: Mass change model info thread
It seems right, on many MB forums it is said that, like:
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/long-wheelbase-or-not.1516195/
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/918090-recommissioning-my-2006-swb-s350.html

Also wikipedia mentions that, and comparing dimensions (also with other years) from this guide it's confirmed:
https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/s-class/2006/review/
https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/s-class/2006/st-100529121/features-specs/
https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/s-class/2006/st-100521806/features-specs/

This is for USA, here it is mentioned that Canada could have gotten SWB W221 too but it is unconfirmed: https://www.reddit.com/r/mercedes_benz/comments/1dikawu/how_hard_it_is_to_find_a- _nonl_s_class/
13/09/2025 @ 13:38:36: antp: Mass change model info thread
OK I'll already change the non-S350 from USA.
edit: it seems we have only one of these on the site btw:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_360322-Mercedes-Benz-S-350-W220-2006.html
13/09/2025 @ 13:39:51: andyhao: Mass change model info thread
EDIT: I clicked the send and then found out seems I'm late for the party :crazy:

2006 MY got S350 SWB, other model years were all LWB models without L in name.

2000 MY
https://web.archive.org/web/20000229092558/http://www.mbusa.com/servlet/ModelsSe- rvlet/specs/S430V.html#anchor1
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302120442/http://www.mbusa.com/servlet/ModelsSe- rvlet/specs/S500V.html

2001 MY
https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Mercedes-Clase-S-2001-USA.pdf

2003 MY
https://autocatalogarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Mercedes-Clase-S-2003-USA.pdf

2004 MY
https://xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2004-Mercedes-Benz-S-Class.pdf

2005 MY
https://www.cars.com/research/mercedes_benz-s_class-2005/specs/#research-trim-specs

However, a SWB S350 was offered for 2006 MY
https://drivingwithscissors.com/IMAGES/MB3/200620S-Class20Guide.pdf
21/10/2025 @ 19:50:48: mike962: Mass change model info thread
I suggest all the spanish build Vespas to be renamed from Moto Vespa Vespa to just MotoVespa

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2032954.html
31/10/2025 @ 18:57:39: walter.: Mass change model info thread
@Antp: can the 2004 Audi A3 Sportbacks be changed into 2005? https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Audi&model=A3+Sportback&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on Thanks.
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