Subject: Mass change model info thread
19/03/2014 @ 12:07:23: antp: Mass change model info thread
ok
08/04/2014 @ 22:38:20: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
I've been looking the M-35 military trucks.

From: http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m35.php

M-35 Series (or M44 Series) 2 1/2-ton, 6x6 Trucks (G-742)

"These trucks are called the M35-series because the M35 Cargo Truck was the most widely utilized model. Its formal name was the M44-series, named for the bare chassis model. Its standard nomenclature designation is G-742."

G-742 seems to be a designation used internally by the US Army but it seems to be more commonly used than M-44 (just judging by a quick web search)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._military_vehicles_by_supply_catalog_de- signation

I'd like you to add a chassis code for all the Reo/Kaiser Jeep/AM General M-35 trucks but should we use G-742 or M-44?
08/04/2014 @ 23:34:03: antp: Mass change model info thread
Is that really useful to add? They are known as M35, that other code won't add much it seems...
09/04/2014 @ 00:23:15: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
It means the other variants (M-34, M-109 etc) can be grouped under this.
09/04/2014 @ 01:41:00: mike962: Mass change model info thread
IMO chassis code G 742 is better because adding M-44 to trucks already listed as M-35 or M-XX makes more confusion IMO
09/04/2014 @ 10:46:02: antp: Mass change model info thread
It means the other variants (M-34, M-109 etc) can be grouped under this.


Then indeed it would have a purpose.
Does it apply to all the M-something of AM General, Reo, etc. or only some?
09/04/2014 @ 12:49:25: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
Yes, there's the 5-ton M-39 (G-744), M-809 (G-908) series, and then the M-939 series but I don't know what the G number for that is.

http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce.php

By the way, here http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_254008-AM-General-M-818.html Maxman said:

US nomeclature does not use dashes for vehicles or weapons, i. e. M35 and M818, not M-35 or M-818.


Should we get rid of the dashes or is it worth having just so you can click on the M and bring them all up? Though if you click on the make name you can see all the models anyway.
09/04/2014 @ 13:09:25: antp: Mass change model info thread
There are numerous models on IMCDb to which we added dashes or spaces, that's how it was decided to list vehicles long time ago.
That will be easily changeable once migrated to the new site, so we'll wait for that for removing dashes or spaces :wink:
09/04/2014 @ 14:26:50: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
IMO chassis code G 742 is better because adding M-44 to trucks already listed as M-35 or M-XX makes more confusion IMO


I'm OK with this.
09/04/2014 @ 14:42:30: antp: Mass change model info thread
So I add that code to these:
http://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=AM+General&model=- M-&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
?
Also Reo etc. ?
09/04/2014 @ 15:16:29: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
They're under AM General, Reo and Kaiser Jeep.

G742: M-34, 35, 36, 44, 48, 49, 50, 108, 109, 275, 292

G744: M-39, 51, 54, 246, 289, 543

G908: M-809, 813, 816, 817, 818
09/04/2014 @ 17:21:42: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done.
Some may have been missed, if hey had a suffix after the M-something code. I corrected a few but I may have missed others.
09/04/2014 @ 17:24:13: G-MANN: Mass change model info thread
That's fine, I've checked and you got them all. Thanks :wink:
24/06/2014 @ 17:58:24: Axl Rose: Mass change model info thread
First model year for restyled Alfa 147 was 2005, and first model year for Alfa 159 was 2006, as they came out in late 2004 and 2005 respectively. Also Lancia Musa was produced since october 2004, so first MY was 2005. :clindoeil: The only Alfa GTV 916 without year is 1995-98, the only Spider 916 without year is 1998-03.
24/06/2014 @ 18:38:58: antp: Mass change model info thread
So what has to be changed to what?
08/09/2014 @ 12:17:32: dsl: Mass change model info thread
We have a right mixture of origin for Massey-Harris - US, CDN, lots of blanks, and even UK. Some individual comments have queried this but no-one's really responded. My basic non-expert guess is that they should all be CDN - googling around did not discover any other reference origin. wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massey_Ferguson - seems fairly clear about totally CDN.

Any evidence against??
08/09/2014 @ 13:39:10: antp: Mass change model info thread
It may also depend on the models, in case it is a rebadging.
But I guess that it would be rather safe to assume that all the farming equipment could be listed as CDN origin (except the four military tanks then).
12/09/2014 @ 02:00:31: dsl: Mass change model info thread
Maybe the tanks should be origin USA, made in CDN according to some of the comments on those pages ie generic US designs, franchised out to assorted manufacturers with M-H happening to be CDN within the mix of producers.
12/09/2014 @ 13:49:39: antp: Mass change model info thread
ok
26/09/2014 @ 19:23:43: JB007: Mass change model info thread
First of all, thanks to antp to have indicated me this page. :wink:
I would post the Chassis-Codes:
[S197] for 2005-2009 Ford Mustang.
[N70] for 2004-2014 Toyota Hilux.
[GMT900] for 2007-2014 Chevrolet Tahoe/Tahoe Hybrid/Tahoe PPV/Suburban/Avalanche.
[GMT800] for 2000-2006 Chevrolet Tahoe/Suburban/2005 Tahoe PPV/2002-2003 Avalanche.
[GMT560] for 2003-2007 Chevrolet Kodiak.
I shall post the suite later.
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