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21/03/2021 @ 15:17:00: JB007: Mass change model info thread

Chassis code is "J87" for Renault Captur Mk:1 (2013-2019).
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Renault_model-Captur.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Captur

21/03/2021 @ 20:38:50: Sandie: Mass change model info thread

Can the origin be set automatically for DS? Or is it better to leave it unset as some models like the DS9 might be considered Chinese?

22/03/2021 @ 08:59:20: antp: Mass change model info thread

Yes it can, but indeed should it?
Otherwise we can also have it depending on the model, like for Ford, VW and a few others.

23/03/2021 @ 20:10:31: 993cc: Mass change model info thread

11+1 model name change..
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1397720 ...1932 Alfa Romeo Tipo B ...or Tipo B 'P3'

and same for these 11:
www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Alfa+Romeo&model=P3+Tipo+B&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on
Note: 2 of those have also Monoposto in the description I'd delete this as we'll have to start naming 10's of these period racecars monopostos!

IMCdB lists Alfa Romeos as Type B, Tipo B, P3 or P3 Tipo B when they are all the same car.
I've done quite a research and the sites that look most legitimate (i.e. not classifieds or Wiki..) document these were officially named just Tipo B from Alfa Works and Scuderia Ferrari teams. Especially 'P3 Tipo B' is misleading as there was no 'P3 Tipo A', just a P2!
I propose all these change to Tipo B or maybe Tipo B 'P3' at the most -because even now sometimes P3 persists but Tipo B should come first as the official model name.
www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/june-1981/112/alfa-romeo-8c35 : how Alfa Works name them in period just Tipo B.
www.finecars.cc/en/editorial/article/news/alfa-romeo-tipo-b-p3/index.html : journalists christened them P3 (i.e. the new P2..)
www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/december-1961/28/alfa-romeo-racing-and-production-cars-1910-1940 :old 1961 article about the use of Tipo B in period and how 'P3' came later in retrospect.

24/03/2021 @ 22:09:27: 993cc: Mass change model info thread

Quote From: 993cc

www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1397720 ...1932 Alfa Romeo Tipo B ...or Tipo B 'P3'

Not strictly on topic for this thread but I had submitted in the comments a re-adjustment of distorted main pic for this one as well

26/03/2021 @ 10:48:06: antp: Mass change model info thread

Thanks, I replaced it (and remove the comment-picture then)

06/04/2021 @ 02:56:10: JB007: Mass change model info thread

For all "Bajaj 150", "Bajaj Chetak":
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Bajaj_model-150.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Bajaj_model-Chetak.html
Origin: Italy.
Built in India.
Made for IND.

06/04/2021 @ 12:56:06: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

As discussed in the comments section, Austrian-built Chrysler/Jeep bear a different code compared to American ones according to VINs. Would be possible to mass change only Austrian-built ones?
Here the code list:
1992-95 Chrysler Voyager and Grand Voyager are [ES]
1996-2001 Chrysler Voyager and Grand Voyager are [GS]
2001-2008 Chrysler Voyager and Grand Voyager are [RG]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1C8GYN3712U555840
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1A8GYN3797Y528346
2005-2010 Chrysler 300C and 300C Touring are [LE]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1A8G6E7M66Y110220
2006-2010 Jeep Commander are [XH]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J8H3E8M46Y176535
1994-1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee are [ZG]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J4GZN8M9TY115379
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J4GZN8M5TY107537
1999-2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee are [WG]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J4GWB84X1Y524852
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J4GWB8401Y511902
2005-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee are [WH]:
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-lookup/1J8HCE8M85Y572059

Thanks in advance :wink:

07/04/2021 @ 03:32:06: dhill_cb7: Mass change model info thread

I can vouch for the above post. I checked the VINs and this is indeed accurate. Mopar uses the body code for their chassis code. If need be we can link American counterparts to highlight the differences if needed. :smile:

07/04/2021 @ 09:07:23: Baube: Mass change model info thread

i just have a question : what about the ones built in NA but for European market ? do they follow the US or European codes ?

( if already discussed, please excuse/ignore the question, i missed the answer and its about 3 AM here, which is about when weird questions pops in my head.. :whistle:

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07/04/2021 @ 11:45:06: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

Right question :grin:

I pulled the VIN based on Italian plates, so my findings are based on those. The majority of cars I searched were diesel ones since petrol ones here were rare; for Chryslers I didn't find a single one not built in Austria (I think diesel ones were only assembled there, anyway I searched also petrol ones), maybe we should check more Jeeps, especially petrol ones? I think dhill_cb7 pulled some of these in Swedish movies anyway.

Or did you refer to other Mopar models not built in Austria? For those fully imported from the US (Neon, Stratus etc.), they retain the same code as the US :wink:

07/04/2021 @ 17:23:01: Baube: Mass change model info thread

My Question was pretty much covering every Chrysler but we also found out that the NA plants did built some EU_Spec versions of Voyager, Grand Cherokee, Cherokee and maybe more that Austria built as well as NA for EU that i forget . Its mainly those ones i was thnking of

would be weird to have, for example , a NA built/EU Spec Voyager and another one ( Austria built ) of the same generation in a same movie and see a different code.. :smile:

07/04/2021 @ 17:29:23: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

I understand..if so, we have to find a NA-built EU-specs one to check its code.. :smile:

so maybe better waiting to check more and more examples?

07/04/2021 @ 19:06:40: Baube: Mass change model info thread

maybe dhill already did it and i ( or we ? ) just missed the comment

07/04/2021 @ 19:29:49: dhill_cb7: Mass change model info thread

Haven’t had much time to research. Really busy with the new job.

07/04/2021 @ 20:17:04: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

Maybe it's better to wait for more proof/research for the Grand Cherokee. I can say though that I checked more than a dozen Voyagers in the 1996-2007 range, petrol and diesel ones, and all of them were Austrian built :wink:

11/04/2021 @ 15:42:06: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

Not sure if it's possible doing this, but all Renault Megane série 1 [X64] with body style Wagon (various model names, Break, Grand Tour, Grandtour, SW, Station Wagon, Estate..) were built in Turkey.

11/04/2021 @ 18:26:47: antp: Mass change model info thread

Sure, done.
I'll update the Austrian Chrysler/Jeep now.
Are 2001 GS or RG ?
Same for the Jeeps, there is an overlap, what is 1999 and 2005 ?

11/04/2021 @ 20:04:23: 48bux: Mass change model info thread

I used the years in which they were replaced, not the model years, since in Europe there are plated 2001 Voyagers that are the older type etc.
The Voyagers to change to RG are the ones that now have RS as code, the Grand Cherokee to update to ZG are ZJ ones, WG are WJ ones and WH are WK ones :wink:

12/04/2021 @ 01:42:08: JB007: Mass change model info thread

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