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Mass change model info thread
Published 19/02/2023 @ 10:20:46, By night cub
For the Hyundai luxury brand Genesis, could the default "Model Origin" be set as South Korea? Thanks!
http://imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Genesis.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Genesis.html
Mass change model info thread
Published 21/02/2023 @ 00:49:05, By dhill_cb7
I am updating the facelifted Bluebird’s chassis code manually since I am weeding through them. This entry, with a VIN, confirms the model code changed. https://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1048353#Comment3324912
Just wanted to let you all know so I don’t have to comment on each page.
Just wanted to let you all know so I don’t have to comment on each page.
Mass change model info thread
Published 21/02/2023 @ 10:39:33, By antp
I notice many Kia listed with EU as chassis code for 2nd gen cee'd/pro cee'd, but shouldn't it be JD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Ceed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Ceed
Mass change model info thread
Published 22/02/2023 @ 07:46:50, By JB007
For all "Suzuki AN 400 Burgman", model is "Burgman 400".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+400+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki AN 650 Burgman", model is "Burgman 650".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+650+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki AN Burgman", model is "Burgman".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki UH 125 Burgman", model is "Burgman 125".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-UH+125+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki UH 150 Burgman", model is "Burgman 150".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-UH+150+Burgman.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+400+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki AN 650 Burgman", model is "Burgman 650".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+650+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki AN Burgman", model is "Burgman".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-AN+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki UH 125 Burgman", model is "Burgman 125".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-UH+125+Burgman.html
For all "Suzuki UH 150 Burgman", model is "Burgman 150".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Suzuki_model-UH+150+Burgman.html
Mass change model info thread
Published 23/02/2023 @ 09:16:25, By JB007
Thank you.
For all "Unic Fiat 616 N2", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "616 N2".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+616+N2.html
For all "Unic Fiat 616 N3", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "616 N3".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+616+N3.html
For all "Unic Fiat 619 N", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "619 N".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+619+N.html
For all "Unic Fiat 619 T", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "619 T".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+619+T.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic-Fiat.html
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "EL24".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=renault&modelMatch=1&model=carrier&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=- &class84=84&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJN 95 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_17514-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_73227-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_283167-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_327705-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_649489-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_748002-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1403325-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/9466f35bfe.jpg
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJK 75 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_121585-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1646315-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_68183-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1410090-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/6ffc3044c4.jpg
Latest Edition: 25/02/2023 @ 09:14:03
For all "Unic Fiat 616 N2", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "616 N2".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+616+N2.html
For all "Unic Fiat 616 N3", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "616 N3".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+616+N3.html
For all "Unic Fiat 619 N", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "619 N".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+619+N.html
For all "Unic Fiat 619 T", make is "Unic-Fiat" and model is "619 T".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic_model-Fiat+619+T.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Unic-Fiat.html
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "EL24".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=renault&modelMatch=1&model=carrier&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=- &class84=84&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJN 95 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_17514-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_73227-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_283167-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_327705-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_649489-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_748002-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1403325-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/9466f35bfe.jpg
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJK 75 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_121585-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1646315-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_68183-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1410090-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/6ffc3044c4.jpg
Latest Edition: 25/02/2023 @ 09:14:03
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 04:05:43, By Parzival49
About Daihatsu Materia and Coo
2006+
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=278113
2007+ [M400]
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1269478
Class: Cars, Van / MPV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1154011
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1211631
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1236857
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1261788
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1269478
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1340527
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1471285
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1718000
About Toyota bB and Scion xB, since they are Materia's twins, shouldn't they be categorized under same Class?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-bB.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Scion_model-xB.html
2006+
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=278113
2007+ [M400]
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1269478
Class: Cars, Van / MPV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1154011
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1211631
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1236857
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1261788
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1269478
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1340527
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1471285
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1718000
About Toyota bB and Scion xB, since they are Materia's twins, shouldn't they be categorized under same Class?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-bB.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Scion_model-xB.html
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 04:30:15, By Parzival49
About Daihatsu Mira
Class: Cars, Supermini
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1099327
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1720147
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1263614
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1476343
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1757225
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1128639
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1615621
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1526197
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1204008
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1034513
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1249423
Class: Cars, Convertible
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1480890
About Daihatsu Atari
Class: Cars, Van / MPV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1742824
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1556777
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1534815
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1599808
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1557827
About Daihatsu Move, the page is messy LOL
All the class should be Class: Cars, Supermini
But I'm not sure about Move Canbus, does a kei car with sliding doors make it a MPV?
Same issue with Daihatsu Tanto
Class: Cars, Supermini
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1099327
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1720147
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1263614
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1476343
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1757225
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1128639
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1615621
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1526197
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1204008
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1034513
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1249423
Class: Cars, Convertible
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1480890
About Daihatsu Atari
Class: Cars, Van / MPV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1742824
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1556777
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1534815
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1599808
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1557827
About Daihatsu Move, the page is messy LOL
All the class should be Class: Cars, Supermini
But I'm not sure about Move Canbus, does a kei car with sliding doors make it a MPV?
Same issue with Daihatsu Tanto
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 12:56:54, By antp
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJN 95 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_17514-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_73227-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_283167-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_327705-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_649489-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_748002-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1403325-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/9466f35bfe.jpg
For these vehicles, make is "Renault" and model is "PJK 75 Carrier".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_121585-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1646315-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_68183-Saviem-Carrier.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1410090-Saviem-Carrier.html
For informations.
https://up.autotitre.com/6ffc3044c4.jpg
I rather just put the PJN 95 code in chassis code, keeping Carrier as model name.
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 13:05:19, By antp
About Toyota bB and Scion xB, since they are Materia's twins, shouldn't they be categorized under same Class?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-bB.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Scion_model-xB.html
Yes, but isn't "Hatchback" the right class for the three?
I would have said that it is more a boxy hatchback than a van, like the Nissan Cube... but I see that we list these as van
What do other members think about these?
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 13:39:17, By antp
But I'm not sure about Move Canbus, does a kei car with sliding doors make it a MPV?
Same issue with Daihatsu Tanto
I don't know, either, MPV/van or supermini? They are both at the same time. Supermini category usually overrides the hatchback category, but for MPV vs supermini it is up to us to decide which one is more important.
I've put them as supermini for the moment as it was easier, but it can be changed if needed.
Latest Edition: 26/02/2023 @ 13:46:16
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/02/2023 @ 14:07:45, By Parzival49
I would have said that it is more a boxy hatchback than a van, like the Nissan Cube... but I see that we list these as van
Yea, I actually think hatchback is more proper than MPV
Wiki said its Class is MPV, but body style is hatchback...
And Mercedes R-Klasse, some classified as wagon, some are MPV
I personally prefer the latter one, just like Toyota Wish
Guess we really need other members' opinion
Latest Edition: 26/02/2023 @ 14:07:59
Mass change model info thread
Published 01/03/2023 @ 20:47:21, By JB007
For these vehicles, year is "1952", model is "AMX-13/75 Modèle 51" and chassis-code is "2F".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_998914-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1441090-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_154327-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_858748-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_927416-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_840589-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620193-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
For this vehicle, year is "1960" and model is "AMX-13 Chaffee M24 Turret".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_790599-ARE-AMX-13.html
For these vehicles, year is "1958" and model is "AMX-13/105 MK 61".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_47914-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_261791-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
For this vehicle, year is "1968", model is "AMX-13/105 Modèle 58" and "Made for RA".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_420317-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13
Latest Edition: 01/03/2023 @ 20:48:44
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_998914-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1441090-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_154327-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_858748-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_927416-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_840589-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620193-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
For this vehicle, year is "1960" and model is "AMX-13 Chaffee M24 Turret".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_790599-ARE-AMX-13.html
For these vehicles, year is "1958" and model is "AMX-13/105 MK 61".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_47914-ARE-AMX-13.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_261791-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
For this vehicle, year is "1968", model is "AMX-13/105 Modèle 58" and "Made for RA".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_420317-ARE-AMX-13-1952.html
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13
Latest Edition: 01/03/2023 @ 20:48:44
Mass change model info thread
Published 10/03/2023 @ 23:41:17, By night cub
Right now, the 1986-1990 Chevy Caprice non-Estate wagons are listed two different ways. Some are listed as Chevy Caprice and others as Chevy Caprice Wagon.
I think the best way to list these would be "Chevrolet Caprice" with "Classic Wagon" in the extra info line. This would list them so the name isn't clunky and would be as they are called in the brochures.
Unlike the sedans, all the wagons are Classics. The woodgrain ones have the Estate package, and have "Caprice Estate" badges, while the plain wagons have "Caprice Classic" badges. For the ones that are currently listed as "Caprice Wagon", the "Classic" is listed after, which isn't the order of the words.
That's my opinion on the matter. Chevrolet Caprice Classic Wagon
http://imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=19- 90&makeMatch=2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice+wagon&modelInclModel=on- &modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
I think the best way to list these would be "Chevrolet Caprice" with "Classic Wagon" in the extra info line. This would list them so the name isn't clunky and would be as they are called in the brochures.
Unlike the sedans, all the wagons are Classics. The woodgrain ones have the Estate package, and have "Caprice Estate" badges, while the plain wagons have "Caprice Classic" badges. For the ones that are currently listed as "Caprice Wagon", the "Classic" is listed after, which isn't the order of the words.
That's my opinion on the matter. Chevrolet Caprice Classic Wagon
http://imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=19- 90&makeMatch=2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice+wagon&modelInclModel=on- &modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
Mass change model info thread
Published 11/03/2023 @ 12:28:50, By dhill_cb7
Haven’t studied them I would tend to agree to list all of them the same way. With regard to the nomenclature I tend to plead the 5th.
For searching purposes we should indeed list them all the same; at least the model name. The extra information can be tweeked depending on the package ordered?
For searching purposes we should indeed list them all the same; at least the model name. The extra information can be tweeked depending on the package ordered?
Mass change model info thread
Published 12/03/2023 @ 12:06:19, By antp
Wasn't "Classic" part of the model name for some of the sedans? (or maybe that was for another generation?)
Mass change model info thread
Published 12/03/2023 @ 20:32:10, By night cub
From 1973-1985, the model name was "Caprice Classic".
The ones prior were just "Caprice" (the wagons, from 1966-1968 were "Caprice Wagon").
In 1986, Chevy streamlined their fullsize models. The Impala was discontinued and replaced by the base "Caprice" sedan. At that point the "Classic" became a trim rather than a separate model, along with new trims "Classic Brougham" and "Classic Brougham LS". The wagons were only available in the "Classic" trim, with an available "Estate" package (with the woodgrain siding), that had separate "Caprice Estate" badges. The plain-sided wagons wore "Caprice Classic" badges.
Right now, half of the 1986-1990 wagons are listed as "Caprice Wagon", which puts the "Classic" in the extra info, so they show up as "Caprice Wagon Classic", which is the wrong order of the words. What I am asking is to make them match the other half, which is "Caprice Classic Wagon", moving the Wagon to the extra info line so the words are in the correct order. I would leave the "Caprice Estate" wagons alone, as they wear that as a badge (unless other posters think that they should be changed as well).
Here is the brochure from 1986:
http://oldcarbrochures.org/United%20States/Chevrolet/1986-Chevrolet/1986-Chevrolet-Caprice-Brochure/slides/1986_Chevrolet_Caprice-12-13.html
The ones prior were just "Caprice" (the wagons, from 1966-1968 were "Caprice Wagon").
In 1986, Chevy streamlined their fullsize models. The Impala was discontinued and replaced by the base "Caprice" sedan. At that point the "Classic" became a trim rather than a separate model, along with new trims "Classic Brougham" and "Classic Brougham LS". The wagons were only available in the "Classic" trim, with an available "Estate" package (with the woodgrain siding), that had separate "Caprice Estate" badges. The plain-sided wagons wore "Caprice Classic" badges.
Right now, half of the 1986-1990 wagons are listed as "Caprice Wagon", which puts the "Classic" in the extra info, so they show up as "Caprice Wagon Classic", which is the wrong order of the words. What I am asking is to make them match the other half, which is "Caprice Classic Wagon", moving the Wagon to the extra info line so the words are in the correct order. I would leave the "Caprice Estate" wagons alone, as they wear that as a badge (unless other posters think that they should be changed as well).
Here is the brochure from 1986:
http://oldcarbrochures.org/United%20States/Chevrolet/1986-Chevrolet/1986-Chevrolet-Caprice-Brochure/slides/1986_Chevrolet_Caprice-12-13.html
Mass change model info thread
Published 13/03/2023 @ 08:50:33, By antp
OK so it was the generation before, thanks for the details
I've done the update:
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=1990&makeMatch=- 2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=o- n&mk=&class8=8&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
I suppose that for these the "Classic" should go to extra info then?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=1990&makeMatch=- 2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice%20classic&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=&page=1
Latest Edition: 13/03/2023 @ 08:52:29
I've done the update:
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=1990&makeMatch=- 2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=o- n&mk=&class8=8&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
I suppose that for these the "Classic" should go to extra info then?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&yearFrom=1986&yearTo=1990&makeMatch=- 2&make=chevrolet&modelMatch=1&model=caprice%20classic&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=&page=1
Latest Edition: 13/03/2023 @ 08:52:29
Mass change model info thread
Published 13/03/2023 @ 09:36:21, By night cub
Fixed those manually. Some were just plain Caprices.
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